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Jump To Comment: 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1Tá, cinnte. Seachain "tiocfaidh ár lá" sin ar do fhón soghlaiste. Is marfóir é!
A prisoner does not have the right to serve their sentence in an Irish prison anymore than they have the right to decide Cloverhill over Mountjoy.
If you commit a crime in a country then you must accept the punishment under that nations laws.
The family travelling is the prisoners fault not the nation. Im sure Britain would rather they hadn't commited the crime in the first place.
Should we take all Irish prisoners out of every jail across the globe?
An international treaty exists between many countries that any prisoner convicted of an offence has the right to serve it in their own countries . Such an arrangement has existed for years between Ireland and Britain . Those men are fully entitled to serve out their sentences in Ireland , its the governemnts who are deliberately messing them and their families about .
And a couple of those guys had fuck all to do with anything and shouldnt be in jail in the first place . They were jailed because of who they associated with , not what they did . Irish in the wrong place at the wrong time . The ones who were involved took full responsibility but the Brits jailed them anyway .
its a well established procedure for prisoners to be returned to their home country to serve their sentences. such a treaty exists between britain and ireland.
in any case they are not criminals: they are Political Prisoners.
Maybe the criminals should have thought of that before they commited their crimes.
This isn't about political prisoners or a debate about their crimes, or if the decisions were just and fair etc.
Its about a simple fact that if you are convicted in a country you should do your time in that juristiction. If an Italian murdered someone on the streets of Dublin then s/he similarly should stay in an irish prison.
Sorry mate,
The criminals punished their own families.
Try not point the finger of blame at the blameless.
In reply to the small minded "paying" its one thing to say that prisoners should not be transferred and should serve their punishment, but should their familes be punished too??? They are the ones who have to travel a long way to visit their loved one. The British are very found of doing as much as possible to punish the families by constantly moving the prisoners around from different prisons that are very far apart. Do you think collective punishment is acceptable?
I campaigned for Political status for IRA and INLA prisoners. While I think the campaigns carried out by the CIRA and RIRA are futile and divisive I would be a hypocrite if I didnt support Political Status for those who are carrying out the same actions that the IRA did not so long ago.
These men are POWS and should be returned to Ireland.
If people commit crimes and are convicted in a different juristiction then they should serve their time there.
It is a punishment after all.
Secondly, it costs a rather significant amount of money to house prisoners. I have yet to see a non-political reason why the State (and therefore those of us who pay tax) should take on such a burden.
Maybe if you don't want to do time in a foreign prison you shouldn't do the crime.